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Hans
2006-09-25, 09:53:05
Hallo,

wie ist denn das Format von den xml Dateien, die man importieren kann.

Gibt es schon irgendwo eine Sammlung, die man such runterladen kann?

Super Programm!

Hans
Richard
2006-10-13, 16:41:10
Hello,

I have been using Pauker-1.7.1 (great programm)for some time.

Today I downloaded Pauker-1.7.2, but don't see any difference.

Is there any difference between the two versions, or have only some minor bugs been fixed?

Richard
AlexFru
2006-10-15, 04:00:56
I'm making some (English-)Spanish flash cards sometimes in my spare time.
It would probably be a good thing to host a link to my site at yours. I don't want to have copies of my flash cards in more than one place, I want to have control over them, yet I still want to share them with others. :)
You can let me know what you think about this by contacting me using the contact information from my site (e-mail, ICQ, guestbook).
Thanks,
Alex
AlexFru
2006-10-15, 04:01:52
Oops, I forgot to put the link: http://alexfru.narod.ru
Achim
2006-10-17, 04:50:02
Hallo,
ich war auf der Suche nach einem Lernprogramm und habe Pauker gefunden. Inzwischen habe ich mich ein wenig damit beschäftigt und finde es toll.
Für künftige Versionen würde ich mir wünschen, dass ich als Frage oder Antwort auch kleine Grafiken einbinden kann. Dies wäre zum Beispiel hilfreich, wenn man für einen Führerschein lernt. Bei derartigem Lernstoff kommt man kaum ohne Grafiken aus.
Außerdem wäre es (vielleicht) hilfreich, wenn Pauker über eine Verwaltung der Lektionen verfügen würde, die beim Programmstart automatisch darüber informiert, welche Lektionen zur Wiederholung anstehen.
Viele Grüße und weiterhin viel Spaß beim Weiterentwickeln dieses tollen Programms - Achim
micheline
2006-10-26, 16:20:50
ich habe eine frage kostet pauker etwas?

ich bitte dass die nachfolgenden mir zurück schrieben würden vielen dank im vorraus!!
Axel
2006-10-26, 17:28:51
Micheline, Pauker ist nicht nur gratis sondern frei - "Frei wie im Freibier."

Das heißt, es sind sogar allen Baupläne ("Sourcecode") des Progams verfügbar. Zu den "Lizensfreiheiten" siehe "Gnu Public License". Du kannst es zB unter diese Freiheiten auch beliebig weiter vertreiben...usw.

Wenn du sehr zufrieden mit Pauker bist, würde sich Ronny trotzdem freuen, wenn du ihm für die Mühe ein paar Euros mit dem Paypal Button links spendest. Vielleicht motiviert ihm das für ein extra Stück Weiterentwicklung :) Weil mir Pauker für die English Prüfungen sehr geholfen hat, hat ich mal die Arbeitszeit für dieses Webdesign gespendet ;)
Miniko
2006-10-26, 20:15:53
@Richard

Check out the Sourceforge pages (http://sourceforge.net/projects/pauker) where you can access the archive for the mailing list. There's a post where Ronny outlines the changes: bugfixes and a more tolerant CSV parser.
Olgar
2006-10-26, 21:45:17
Algorithm: Is there a way to change Pauker's algorithm from e^(B-1) to something like 1.9^(B-1) or 2^(B-1)? (where B stands for the batch)

That's the algorithm I have used for many years on my paper-based flash cards. It is also much more like SuperMemo's spacing.

I'd modify Pauker myself, but unfortunately have no clue when it comes to Java... Any help would be appreciated. Or why not allow this to set as a user preference?

The difference really kicks in after batch 4; and looking at using Pauker for years to come, the differences will be enormous.

Thanks for such a great program! It was the first to make me (mostly) give up paper flashcard!
Miniko
2006-10-27, 22:57:02
@ Olgar

Yes, Pauker uses longer breaks between repetitions. I am not entirely sure whether this makes Pauker more efficient; or if we're looking at a problem. We probably can't say, because we would need long-term data on forgetting... much more than what is generally available. The Mnemosyne project appear to collect such data, and in a few years time (or maybe many) we may know more. The other source of data I know is SuperMemo; but they do not give enough detail so I can make enough sense of it.

In the short term, in my personal experience, Pauker does not fare much different from other spaced algorithms. (Regular use is important with all of them...) Ideally, when hitting the really long breaks, this is when you are actively using what you've been learning with Pauker. For that reason I can imagine that Pauker is actually quite efficient; as you get additional "revision" by using the items.

For the same reason, data collected by the Mnemosyne project may be not good enough. Items I memorize for the sake of it will need more frequent repetition than items I memorize for real-life use. Changing just one variable will not change much here: what you need for that is different spacing for different items/cards... The Mnemosyne project offer that, as far as I understand, but be warned, Pauker is much cooler ;)
Axel
2006-10-30, 14:15:38
@Miniko & Olgar

I would happily add a section to the webpage that lists and reviews scientific papers / other publications in regards of relevant learning theories. And how pauker corresponds / not correpsonds to them.

Also I would happily have something on the page that introduces the Leitner system to the new user... So if someone wants to write a well written essay! Please be invited! (We can't just copy/paste anything from out of the internet due to copyright reasons)

The major balance to take is between fine tuning the users preference on learning intervalls and the simplicity of the application. e.g. An option for the learning theory educated to enter his personal favorite factors of the repetition time function, makes the dialog overcomplicated for the non-versed.

While I do believe that there might
a) the existing algorithm is generally not the most ideal.
b) that every person has its own ideal repition times, meaning it would have to be flexible.

-> in total I don't think it matters *that* much. I guess the room for optimisation doesn't execeed 5% of your effective-time or so.